EOSFORCE主网社区治理会议会议纪要0422



  • 时间:2019年4月22日 20:05—21:30
    地点: ZOOM会议室 出席人:原力团队、各节点bp(包括海外节点)、社区KOL等 主持人:九州资本-贾慧杰
    翻译:CCBC-Kallen
    会议记录 CCBC-Kallen
    特别感谢 eosou-volunteer-BillSou 辅助文字翻译!

    会议主题:Eosforce 主网社区治理沟通会,本次会议共需讨论 3 个提案。
    Theme of the meeting: EosForce Mainnet Community Governance Seminar, about three proposals to be discussed.

    会议目的:促进社区沟通,提供提案人和社区面对面交流的机会,希望各位节点 和社区用户对提案进行充分沟通,争取达成促进社区生态长远发展的提案。
    Purpose of the meeting: Providing chances to communicate between proposers and community users. Hope that all node bps and community users fully discuss these proposals, so as to reach future agreements to enhance EosForce ecosystem

    NOTICE 说明:
    本次会议为讨论会,只进行讨论,不表决。会后提案人可综合 BP 和社区意见来 修改补充提案,随后再发起多签请求。在规定时间内,BP 需通过链上多签投票, 生效后方可执行。
    For tonight’s meeting, we focus on discussion only, NO voting included. After the meeting, Proposers can enrich the proposals with the suggestions from node bps and community users. After that, they can submit Multi-sign to nodes. In permitted time, the proposals can be implemented only after node bps’s voting and agreement.

    核心提案及讨论内容:
    一、#Proposal 1 “
    Destroy the EOSC of Unactivated EOSForce Genesis Account Proposer: Sky.eosc
    In order to promote the development of EOSForce mainnet and EOSForce community, the 23 BPs of EOSForce mainnet should vote for subsequent allocation scheme of the remaining unactivated users according to the governance rules of EOSForce mainnet. Sky node now suggests adjusting the unactivated EOSForce Genesis accounts.

    Details are as follows:
    Plan 1: Destroy the unactivated eosc account directly. The EOSForce mainnet will take a two- month period. If the account is not activated within two months after the proposal is approved, the eosc in the account will be destroyed directly.

    Plan 2: Destroy the unactivated eosc account directly. The EOSForce mainnet will take a three-month period. If the account is not activated within three months after the proposal is approved, the eosc in the account will be destroyed directly.

    As a parallel network of EOSIO ecosystem, the EOSFORCE mainnet has its own foundation based on the EOS system. Its governance mechanism and resource allocation mode will better serve its own user groups in the future.

    EOSForce and EMLG complement each other to better serve and thrive the EOS ecosystem.The above scheme is only for suggestion and discussion, and it still needs to be voted on by BPs. And there is the possibility of failure. The majority of EOSForce users' investment operation shall be subject to the proposal passed by BPs.

    销毁未激活 EOSForce 创世账号内的币
    提案人:sky.eosc

    为更好地促进原力主网和原力社区发展,对于剩余仍未激活用户,原力 主网 应由 23 个超级节点根据原力主网治理规则,进行投票表决后续分配事 宜。sky 节点现建议对未激活原力创世账号进行调整,建议如下:

    方案 1:直接销毁未激活的 eosc 账号,原力主网采取限期二个月,自 方案 通过后二月内未激活,直接销毁账号内的 eosc。
    方案 2:直接销毁未激活的 eosc 账号,原力主网采取限期三个月,自 方案通过 后三月内未激活,直接销毁账号内的 eosc。

    EOSFORCE 主网作为 EOS 生态中平行网络,在基于 EOS 体系基础有自 身的治理机制、资源配置模式,未来也将更好地服务于自身特色的用户群体, 与 EOS 生态的 EMLG 主网形成互补态势,更好地服务和繁荣 EOS 生态。

    上述方案仅为建议和讨论,仍需待原力主网节点投票表决。且存在不通 过 的可能,广大原力用户的投资操作请以 BP 通过决议为准。

    #讨论:#Discussion:
    From Imlianquan 链圈节点建议:1 个月内 毁,下个月启动 ieo
    Imlianquan said to destroy within one month, to start IEO from the next month.
    From Blockpro Ravi:赞同提案内容,但个人认为时间上拖了太久,建议 毁得 越早越好。
    Ravid said that destruction for one month or three months is too long. Better shorten the time.
    From sky : 同意早点 毁。现在 IEO 很火,可以早点启动。 Sky agreed to shorten destroying time.
    From imlianquan 链圈节点 : 考虑到 毁后 IEO 都没币了,重新建议:一个月内 未激活数量,全部变成项目方先持有,重新做比例分配,再启动 IEO Initial Exchange Offering。项目方持有后,重新分配比例,如:创始团队 15%,市场 营 30%,ieo 发行 20%,开发者激励 35%
    (Imlianquan said the destroyed token as the ieo project. After the project party holds, the ratio is redistributed, for example: 15% for the founding team, 30% for marketing, 20% for ieo, and 35% for developers.)
    From Ravi :不建议团队持有,建议立即 毁。
    Ravi suggested not to hold by EOSForce team, better to destroy immediately.
    From John (EOSphere) : What about the 80% of tokens that are still frozen? Will they also get burnt?
    From Ravi: Ravi 想知道目前项目团队的运营现状,是否设有基金会等信息。
    From 孤矢: 我们目前没有基金会,现在团队所使用的钱都是自己出的,无风投 资金。
    founder said We don't have a foundation, our money is our own money, there is no external ICO. We will go online budget system. 团队正在创立一个去中心化的预算系统,将链上多余的币通过此系统来决定其用 途。
    参考 Dash 链接:https://app.dashnexus.org/proposals/leaderboard
    Founder of EOSC Gu SHI said that the team is exploring the kind of technology to completely decentralize the use of these tokens by using a decentralized budget system. The similar function as below
    Link for reference only.
    https://app.dashnexus.org/proposals/leaderboard
    From Lee 先生 : 毁能提高币价,是个好主意。
    Lee said that destroying can raise the price of the currency is a good idea.
    From imlianquan 链圈节点 : 不 毁不放入项目方持有,那可以先收到链上智能 合约,节点多签投票决策怎么使用? 毁完了,要搞 ieo 整个项目都没有币了,就 没有币去做 ieo 了吧 包括开发者激励的币都没有。
    From yons : 现在关于 IEO 尽量不要玩了,希望原力 EOS 考虑 IBO 解决方案来 做。IEO 现在什么样类型的区块应用都会这样玩,都感觉是个坑位活动!对真实 二级市场的参与不是最佳解决方案。希望原力考虑众筹其他的解决方案来找出路。 好的项目不在于跟风找出路。

    二、#Proposal 2
    From Blockpro Ravi, about “ B1 account freezing and destruction”
    Submitted by BlockPro:
    Each item below to be implemented independently based on BP voting in support of the items listed.
    Proposal#1
    Freeze and burn B1s 100 million tokens.
    Proposal#2
    Release the 80 percent of locked tokens up to a maximum of 30,000 tokens over a 10 month period at 10% unlock each month.
    a) The tokens of early claimants who claimed before the lock was introduced should not be affected.
    b) Provide only one month redemption period to claim back the 80 percent of locked tokens.
    c) The rest of tokens above 30,000 of each account in claimants after the lock was introduced and all tokens not claimed will be burnt after the 1 month redemption period.
    d) The upto 30,000 tokens released will unlock only gradually over 10 months at rate of 10 percent each month. This is to prevent dumping.
    e) After the one month redemption period is over, there will be no more claims allowed from EOS holders.

    EOSFORCE 2017 年 4 月 17 日
    由 BlockPro 提交:
    以下每个项目均基于 BP 投票独立实施,以支持所列项目。
    提案#1
    冻结并销毁 1 亿只令牌。
    提案#2
    在 10 个月内释放 80%的锁定令牌,最多可达 30,000 个令牌,每月解锁 10%。
    a)在引入锁定之前声称的早期索赔人的代币不应受到影响。
    b)仅提供一个月的兑换期以申领 80%的锁定代币。
    c)在锁定引入后,索赔人中每个账户的 30,000 以上的其他代币超过了 1 个 月的兑换期后将被烧毁的所有未提出的代币将被销毁。
    d)发布的最多 30,000 个令牌将在 10 个月内逐步解锁,每月 10%。 这是为 了防止倾销。
    e)在一个月的赎回期结束后,EOS 持有人将不再允许申请。
    From Ravi:发布的最多 30,000 个 token 将在 10 个月内以每月 10%的速度逐步 解 。这是为了防止倾 。Ravi 还认为 B1 分配应冻结并重新分配给基金会。 Ravid said that B1 account needs to be freezed and re-allocated to the foundation of EosForce.
    From Imlianquan: 不建议 毁,1 个月不来的,全部进入「基金会」去中心化账 户,再下一步节点多签决策怎么分配使用。
    Imlianquan suggested not to freeze and destroy. After one month no claim back, then tokens be all transferred into the Decentralized foundation account (Or considering the budget system?), then make Multi-sign vote to decide how to allocate these tokens).

    孤矢:如果投票后决定不 毁代币的话,则这部分未 售的代币将交由去中心化
    预算系统来运行。这个预算系统是由超级节点投票选举产生的管理员来管理的。 这里所说的代币不仅仅指 B1 账户中的,也包括那些链上还没找到归属权的代币 也一并交由去中心化预算系统来维护与管理。
    Founder Gu Shi said that If you do not want to destroy the token, all tokens would be managed by the budget system. Because this budget system is managed by people who elected by the super node.
    Not only B1 tokens, but all tokens that need to be processed by the Decentralized budget system. HERE, Foundation = decentralized budget system.

    From 飞天 : 用币去拉盘的短期做法,对社区是致命的。每一波进来的人都会要 求用币去拉盘,几轮下去只能跑路,崩盘。 毁币,对社区目前状况没有任何改 善。目前社区人数和力量过于弱小,需要更多人更多力量进来。建议保留未领取 的创世币。把创世币以某种市场化方式,给原力的有缘人、给对原力的开创和推 广做出贡献的。
    飞天 said: The B1 currency should be reserved for the B1 team, which should be owned by the B1 team. The b1 token should be retained. Other frozen tokens should not be destroyed. The frozen token should be given to the Foundation to reward the people or development team that the community pays.
    Ravi disagreed with this. As he once communicated with some people from EOSIO, asking for the support of EosForce, without any result...

    三、#Proposal 3 “
    Secretariat Reformation Proposal Proposer: the third secretariat
    In order to enrich the organizational structure of EOSForce mainnet secretariat and let more community opinions be added to the mainnet governance to make the community governance of EOSForce's mainnet
    fairer. This proposal proposes to expand the secretariat staff starting from the fourth session of the secretariat as follows:

    1. Under the current organizational structure of the secretariat, a new member of the community KOL will join the secretariat to participate in the community governance of the mainnet.
    2. The newly added member of the secretariat will get the basic salary of EOSForce mainnet secretariat.

    Remark:

    1. The new members of secretariat are selected by the previous secretariat and submitted to the BP parliament for voting.
    2. The additional secretariat members must be active community KOL personnel.
    3. New secretariat members act as communication bridges between communities, nodes and development teams.
      The above scheme is only a suggestion, and the final result is still to be determined by EOSForce mainnet BPs.

    秘书处改革提案
    提案人:第三届秘书处

    为了丰富 EOSForce 主网秘书处组织架构,让更多的社区意见加 入主网治理,促使 EOSForce 主网社区治理更加公平。本提案建议从 第四届秘书处开始,扩充秘书 处人员,具体如下:
    1、 在目前秘书处组织架构下,新增 1 名社区 KOL 成员加入秘书 处,参与主网社 区治理。
    2、 新增的秘书处成员享受 EOSForce 主网秘书处基本工资待遇。 备注:

    1. 新增的秘书处成员由上届秘书处选定,提交 BP 议会表决。
    2. 新增的秘书处成员必须是积极活跃的社区 KOL 人员。
    3. 新增秘书处成员的职责作为社区和节点、开发团队的沟通桥梁。
      以上方案仅为建议,最终结果仍待原力主网节点投票表决来确定。

    From Ravi: 同意提案,希望能看到原力团队更多的宣传。
    Agree with the proposal. The team needs to be strengthened, specially for PR and promotion.
    Hope more super nodes, more than 23. Hope more stand-by nodes. 同时,建议原力团队考虑得到更多交易平台的支持。希望未来能有更多的超级节 点和更多的备选节点在名单上。需要更多备用节点。中国社区应该支持一些西方 和非中国区块生产者候选人的投票。
    飞天: 国内社区是非常愿意帮助更多候选人、更多国外候选节点,共建原力。希 望国内外有更多沟通!希望秘书处能对社区运营推广,起牵头或助推作用。Agree with the proposal, too. She suggests more strength be added for community activities and more communication between home and abroad bps. Wish the Secretariat could play the key role in the community expanding and promotion process.
    Ravi: 中国社区应该支持一些西方和非中国区块生产者候选人的投票。我正在努 力扩展这个系统..有人可以帮助边缘 BP 候选人 forceafrique 和 telosforce 成为 备用 BP ..? 我们需要通过各种方式促使更加全球化的努力。
    From imlianquan 链圈节点: 开发者激励没币,市场营 没币,初始 10 亿不领的 收起来重新分配去用。Imlianquan said that No coins for Technic Team, No coins for Marketing and PR, So better to re-allocate those coins which didn’t be claim back, for the full useage.
    From 贾慧杰@九州 bp : 提案人可以综合社区意见修改提案,最后通过链上多 签完成。当然,社区其他人也可以继续在论坛,或者其他渠道发表意见。

    21:30 散会
    附:BP 提案邮箱:[email protected]



  • @eosforce Translate from飞天双子

    • B1's 100 million should be reserved, and the daily issuance of tokens for 10 years will be given to 100 million.

    • The frozen token is no longer reserved and should be classified as a long-term development fund, Provided to those who have the same strength and who contribute to the creation and promotion. The fund is allocated the same amount of money as the B1 to the eosforce development team. Because their contribution to the eosforce mainnet is similar to the BM team. In the current reward mechanism, development team don't have any rewards, only nodes and voters get rewards.


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